BAFTA Awards surprises

Steve Newport · Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Posts: 1415

ATONEMENT. Marion Cotillard. Tilda Swinton.

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stephen.farrow · Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Posts: 60

On 11 Feb, 05:58, NewportsRe...@webtv.net (Steve Newport) wrote:
> ATONEMENT. Marion Cotillard. Tilda Swinton.

I wouldn't call "Atonement" a surprise (it had a significantly better
critical reaction in Britain than in the States). It wasn't
necessarily the front-runner, despite the huge number of nominations,
but it wasn't an upset, though I personally thought that "The Lives of
Others" was the best of the Best Film nominees (I also thought that
Ulrich Muhe's performance in it was the best of the leading actor
nominations by far, though he was never going to win); "Atonement" has
had enough of an international impact and had enough awards momentum
that it was actually a better contender for Best Film than for Best
British Film, for which it was also nominated. And "This Is England",
which won Best British Film, is remarkable, though very bleak.

Cotillard is a very deserving winner. It's an amazing performance -
and, yes, her win was a major surprise. In the supporting actress
category, the performance that stood out for me was Saoirse Ronan, who
is stunningly good in "Atonement" in a role that I think is probably
far more difficult than it looks.

--
Stephen

Steve Newport · Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Posts: 1415

From: stephen.farrow@gmail.com
"Atonement" had a significantly better critical reaction in Britain than
in the States. It wasn't necessarily the front-runner, despite the huge
number of nominations, but it wasn't an upset, though I personally
thought that "The Lives of Others" was the best of the Best Film
nominees (I also thought that Ulrich Muhe's performance in it was the
best of the leading actor nominations by far, though he was never going
to win); "Atonement" has had enough of an international impact and had
enough awards momentum that it was actually a better contender for Best
Film than for Best British Film, for which it was also nominated. And
"This Is England", which won Best British Film, is remarkable, though
very bleak.

Cotillard is a very deserving winner. It's an amazing performance - and,
yes, her win was a major surprise. In the supporting actress category,
the performance that stood out for me was Saoirse Ronan, who is
stunningly good in "Atonement" in a role that I think is probably far
more difficult than it looks.
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Yes. "This Is England" and "The Lives of Others" looked interesting.

stephen.farrow · Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Posts: 60

On 11 Feb, 18:16, NewportsRe...@webtv.net (Steve Newport) wrote:
> From: stephen.far...@gmail.com
> "Atonement" had a significantly better critical reaction in Britain than
> in the States. It wasn't necessarily the front-runner, despite the huge
> number of nominations, but it wasn't an upset, though I personally
> thought that "The Lives of Others" was the best of the Best Film
> nominees (I also thought that Ulrich Muhe's performance in it was the
> best of the leading actor nominations by far, though he was never going
> to win); "Atonement" has had enough of an international impact and had
> enough awards momentum that it was actually a better contender for Best
> Film than for Best British Film, for which it was also nominated. And
> "This Is England", which won Best British Film, is remarkable, though
> very bleak.
>
> Cotillard is a very deserving winner. It's an amazing performance - and,
> yes, her win was a major surprise. In the supporting actress category,
> the performance that stood out for me was Saoirse Ronan, who is
> stunningly good in "Atonement" in a role that I think is probably far
> more difficult than it looks.
> ---------------------------------------
> Yes. "This Is England" and "The Lives of Others" looked interesting.

If you haven't seen "The Lives of Others", rent it NOW. Don't let the
fact that it's a) very, very sombre, with no comic relief at all, and
b) entirely in German put you off. It's the best film I saw last year,
and it would be an extraordinary achievement in any year. The three
central performances are quite brilliant, and it's incredibly moving.

--
Stephen

Steve Newport · Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Posts: 1415

From: stephen.farrow@gmail.com
If you haven't seen "The Lives of Others", rent it NOW. Don't let the
fact that it's a) very, very sombre, with no comic relief at all, and b)
entirely in German put you off.
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I won't. Wait-- is there rock music?

stephen.farrow · Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Posts: 60

On 12 Feb, 07:40, NewportsRe...@webtv.net (Steve Newport) wrote:
> From: stephen.far...@gmail.com
> If you haven't seen "The Lives of Others", rent it NOW. Don't let the
> fact that it's a) very, very sombre, with no comic relief at all, and b)
> entirely in German put you off.
> -----------------------------------------
> I won't. Wait-- is there rock music?

No. No rock music.

--
Stephen

Tim Gowen · Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Posts: 51

wrote:

> Cotillard is a very deserving winner. It's an amazing performance -
> and, yes, her win was a major surprise.

Agreed again, altthough I didn't enjoy the film overall - thought it was
a bit of a mess. And apparently Cotillard can sing, but yet they chose
to overdub Piaf, which I don't think was a good idea.

> In the supporting actress
> category, the performance that stood out for me was Saoirse Ronan, who
> is stunningly good in "Atonement" in a role that I think is probably
> far more difficult than it looks.

She was brilliant, yes!

Tim

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Tim Gowen

Tim Gowen · Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Posts: 51

wrote:

> If you haven't seen "The Lives of Others", rent it NOW. Don't let the
> fact that it's a) very, very sombre, with no comic relief at all, and
> b) entirely in German put you off. It's the best film I saw last year,
> and it would be an extraordinary achievement in any year. The three
> central performances are quite brilliant, and it's incredibly moving.

Agreed. This Is England is also excellent although may not have a lot
of appeal abroad.

Tim

--
Tim Gowen

Harlett O'Dowd · Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Posts: 115

On Feb 12, 12:18 pm, t...@nospam.demon.co.uk (Tim Gowen) wrote:
> wrote:
> > Cotillard is a very deserving winner. It's an amazing performance -
> > and, yes, her win was a major surprise.
>
> Agreed again, altthough I didn't enjoy the film overall - thought it was
> a bit of a mess. And apparently Cotillard can sing, but yet they chose
> to overdub Piaf, which I don't think was a good idea.

Piaf had one of the most instantly recognizable voices in history, and
I'm sure that works doubly so for the French. I don't think they had
much of a choice but to overdub her.

I liked it in the theatre and just got the DVD and watched it again. I
think I like it even more now even though some of the narrative
devices still don't work for me and I'm not sure why they blacked out
all of WWII from the story.

Steve Newport · Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Posts: 1415

From: chris.connelly@worldspan.com
Piaf had one of the most instantly recognizable voices in history, and
I'm sure that works doubly so for the French. I don't think they had
much of a choice but to overdub her.
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What are the chances of an Oscar upset?
And is the "Supporting Actress" category now a four way race?

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