WILLIE KS REMARKS AT DON HOS SERVICE

JUNGLE · Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Posts: 7

aloha----
you know one of the most talented artists in the state is willie k. for
years, heck decades i have had the utmost respect for him and his music.
tonight he took the stage at don ho's memorial and i am sure i was not the
only one he offended in the most heinous antisocial manner. in one fell
swoop he derided the entire civil liberty struggles of every ethnic portion
of our community and country.
his apparently drunken tirade was reminiscent of seinfeld Kramers filth. On
a day of rememberence he felt obligated to walk onto stage and vomit out the
most vile statement i have ever heard uttered on a stage in hawaii or
anywhere else... "LOOK OUT THERE ON THE BEACH WE GOT HAOLES AND LOCALS ALL
SITTING NEXT TO EACH OTHER, AINT THIS JUST A MARTIN LUTHER KING MOMENT...."
WHAT IN HELL WAS HE THINKING?
DID HE THINK THAT DON WOULD HAVE APPROVED OF THAT KIND OF BLATENT
PREDJUDICE? DOES HE THINK THAT DON DISTINGUISED BETWEEN THE PEOPLE OF
THEWORLD WHO LOVED HIM AND RESPECTED HIS WORK? DID WILLIE THINK THAT ALL
HIS WHITE, BLACK, PHILIPINO, CHINESE, JAPANESE FANS WANTED TO HEAR HIM
INSULT EACH OF THEIR RACES ON A SOLEMN OCCASION SUCH AS A FUNERAL SERVICE?
HE CONTINUED ON WITH CHEAP PORTRAYALS OF JAZZ GREAT ELLA FITZGERALD CALLING
HER BRONZED AND HAWAIIAN, SHE IS BLACK AND PROUD WHY COULDNT HE SHOW
RESPECT. I WATCH WILLIE AT BIKE RUNS WITH HIS WHITE AND LOCAL AND HAWAIIAN
FRIENDS I HAVE NEVER HEARD HIM INSULT THEM IN THAT MANNER.
HEY WILLIE THE LAST TIME I SAW YOU YOU WALKED ONSTAGE WITH YOUR ZIPPER DOWN,
I GOT THE PHOTO OF A LIFETIME BECAUSE IT SHOWS YOU AS YOU ARE. YOU CANT ZIP
YOUR PANTS AND TONIGHT YOU SHOWED YOU CANT ZIP YOUR MOUTH. YOU WERE
INSULTING TO A MAN WHO SERVED HIS COUNTRY AND HIS HAWAIIAN PEOPLE PROUDLY.
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO HELP FIX THE WORLD WILLIE? WHAT BRIDGES HAVE YOU
CROSSED? DON HO FOUGHT ALONGSIDE EVERY NATIONALITY TO PROTECT YOUR RIGHT TO
BE INSULTING AND CRUDE. YOU ARE NOT AN ACTIVIST YOU ARE A RUDE HYPOCRITE
NOT TO MENTION YOU AINT PURE HAWAIIAN FROM MY UNDERSTANDING SO YOU ALSO
INSULTED YOUR FAMILY. WOW TO THINK I SPENT MONEY TO SEE AND HEAR YOU
PERFORM...
THAT WONT HAPPEN EVER AGAIN AND I HOPE THAT EVERYONE WHO WAS WITNESS TO YOUR
ACT OF IGNORANCE AND WORDS OF HATE FEELS THE SAME WAY AS I DO.
TALENTED YES, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY YOU SHOWED THAT YOU ARE CLASSLESS AND
UNIMPORTANT.
YOU NEED TO FIND SOME HUMBLE WILLIE AND GET ON YOUR KNEES AND APOLOGIZE TO
MRS KINGS FAMILY, TO MR HOS FAMILY, TO THE ENTIRE STATE OF HAWAII. HAWAII
HAS ITS ISSUES AND I AM A FERVENT BELIEVER IN SOVEREIGNTY BUT NOTHING GOOD
EVER CAME OUT OF YOUR CALLOUS AND CRUDE BEHAVIOURS AND STATENMENTS.
ANOTHER LOCAL MUSICIAN ONCE TOLD ME HE DIDNT LIKE YOU AND WHEN I ASKED WHY
HE CALLED YOU A HIGH MUCKA FU__KA ... IT TOOK A FEW YEARS FOR ME TO
UNDERSTAND THE WISDOM IN HIS WORDS..... TONIGHT I SAW THE LIGHT....
I HOPE YOU FIND IN YOUR FUTURE THAT REGARDLESS OF YOUR TALENT THAT WITHOUT
APOLOGIES TO THE ENTIRE STATE AND NATION OF HAWAII THAT YOUR IGNORANT
PORTRAYAL OF A MAN SUCH AS MARTIN LUTHER KING WAS A GRAVE ERROR IN JUDGEMENT
THAT YOUR CAREER FAILS AND BOTH PELE AND GOD AND BUDDA AND JESUS ALL COME
TOGETHER TO SHINE ABOVE THE KIND OF DEGRADEING ATTITUDES YOU SHOWED
TONIGHT...
GET A GRIP DUDE YOU WERE OUT OF LINE AND YOU MADE ALOT OF ENEMIES..
WHY DO YOU THINK NO ONE APPLAUDED YOU OR SAND WITH YOU???
IF YOU ARE CLUELESS ENOUGH TO NOT KNOW I WILL TELL YOU WHY..
IT WAS BECAUSE YOU SHOWED THE WORLD THE UGLINESS THAT LIES WITHIN YOUR
HEART.....
THE REASONS DON HO, MR KING, BRUDDAH IZ, DUKE, AND KING KAULAKAUA ALL
GARNERED RESPECT AND LOVE AND MADE THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE IN WAS
BECAUSE THEY NEVER ALLOWED RACE OR RELIGION TO SET THEIR PERSONAL AGENDAS
ABOVE OTHERS......
IF I AM THE ONLY FAN YOU LOST TONIGHT THEN I AM PROUD, IF I AM ONE OF
HUNDREDS I AM MORE PROUD, IF I AM ONE OF MILLIONS I WILL BE MORE PROUD YET.
YOU DISGRACED HAWAII, YOU DISGRACED DON, YOU DISGRACED HAWAIIANS, HAOLES,
BLACKS AND ALL OUR WONDERFUL COLORFUL NATION OF HAWAII BY ACTING LIKE A
JERK....
SHAME ON YOU.....................
THINK LONG AND HARD WILLIE....
REVEREND JOE MILLER
(AND YES THIS POST I PLACE MY NAME ON BECAUSE I AM A VETERAN, I AM A MAN OF
PEACE..... YOU ARE A VIOLENT VILE EXAMPLE OF WHY WE IN HAWAII ARE NOT MOVING
FORWARD TOWARDS A SOCIETY THAT COEXISTS IN PEACE)

Archived from group: alt>music>hawaiian

Kuhinomoku · Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Posts: 7

"JUNGLE" wrote in message @ilhawaii.net...
> aloha----
> you know one of the most talented artists in the state is willie k. for
> years, heck decades i have had the utmost respect for him and his music.
> tonight he took the stage at don ho's memorial and i am sure i was not the
> only one he offended in the most heinous antisocial manner. in one fell
> swoop he derided the entire civil liberty struggles of every ethnic
> portion of our community and country.
> his apparently drunken tirade was reminiscent of seinfeld Kramers filth.
> On a day of rememberence he felt obligated to walk onto stage and vomit
> out the most vile statement i have ever heard uttered on a stage in hawaii
> or anywhere else... "LOOK OUT THERE ON THE BEACH WE GOT HAOLES AND LOCALS
> ALL SITTING NEXT TO EACH OTHER, AINT THIS JUST A MARTIN LUTHER KING
> MOMENT...."
> WHAT IN HELL WAS HE THINKING?
> DID HE THINK THAT DON WOULD HAVE APPROVED OF THAT KIND OF BLATENT
> PREDJUDICE? DOES HE THINK THAT DON DISTINGUISED BETWEEN THE PEOPLE OF
> THEWORLD WHO LOVED HIM AND RESPECTED HIS WORK? DID WILLIE THINK THAT ALL
> HIS WHITE, BLACK, PHILIPINO, CHINESE, JAPANESE FANS WANTED TO HEAR HIM
> INSULT EACH OF THEIR RACES ON A SOLEMN OCCASION SUCH AS A FUNERAL SERVICE?
> HE CONTINUED ON WITH CHEAP PORTRAYALS OF JAZZ GREAT ELLA FITZGERALD
> CALLING HER BRONZED AND HAWAIIAN, SHE IS BLACK AND PROUD WHY COULDNT HE
> SHOW RESPECT. I WATCH WILLIE AT BIKE RUNS WITH HIS WHITE AND LOCAL AND
> HAWAIIAN FRIENDS I HAVE NEVER HEARD HIM INSULT THEM IN THAT MANNER.
> HEY WILLIE THE LAST TIME I SAW YOU YOU WALKED ONSTAGE WITH YOUR ZIPPER
> DOWN, I GOT THE PHOTO OF A LIFETIME BECAUSE IT SHOWS YOU AS YOU ARE. YOU
> CANT ZIP YOUR PANTS AND TONIGHT YOU SHOWED YOU CANT ZIP YOUR MOUTH. YOU
> WERE INSULTING TO A MAN WHO SERVED HIS COUNTRY AND HIS HAWAIIAN PEOPLE
> PROUDLY. WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO HELP FIX THE WORLD WILLIE? WHAT BRIDGES
> HAVE YOU CROSSED? DON HO FOUGHT ALONGSIDE EVERY NATIONALITY TO PROTECT
> YOUR RIGHT TO BE INSULTING AND CRUDE. YOU ARE NOT AN ACTIVIST YOU ARE A
> RUDE HYPOCRITE NOT TO MENTION YOU AINT PURE HAWAIIAN FROM MY UNDERSTANDING
> SO YOU ALSO INSULTED YOUR FAMILY. WOW TO THINK I SPENT MONEY TO SEE AND
> HEAR YOU PERFORM...
> THAT WONT HAPPEN EVER AGAIN AND I HOPE THAT EVERYONE WHO WAS WITNESS TO
> YOUR ACT OF IGNORANCE AND WORDS OF HATE FEELS THE SAME WAY AS I DO.
> TALENTED YES, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY YOU SHOWED THAT YOU ARE CLASSLESS AND
> UNIMPORTANT.
> YOU NEED TO FIND SOME HUMBLE WILLIE AND GET ON YOUR KNEES AND APOLOGIZE TO
> MRS KINGS FAMILY, TO MR HOS FAMILY, TO THE ENTIRE STATE OF HAWAII. HAWAII
> HAS ITS ISSUES AND I AM A FERVENT BELIEVER IN SOVEREIGNTY BUT NOTHING GOOD
> EVER CAME OUT OF YOUR CALLOUS AND CRUDE BEHAVIOURS AND STATENMENTS.
> ANOTHER LOCAL MUSICIAN ONCE TOLD ME HE DIDNT LIKE YOU AND WHEN I ASKED WHY
> HE CALLED YOU A HIGH MUCKA FU__KA ... IT TOOK A FEW YEARS FOR ME TO
> UNDERSTAND THE WISDOM IN HIS WORDS..... TONIGHT I SAW THE LIGHT....
> I HOPE YOU FIND IN YOUR FUTURE THAT REGARDLESS OF YOUR TALENT THAT WITHOUT
> APOLOGIES TO THE ENTIRE STATE AND NATION OF HAWAII THAT YOUR IGNORANT
> PORTRAYAL OF A MAN SUCH AS MARTIN LUTHER KING WAS A GRAVE ERROR IN
> JUDGEMENT THAT YOUR CAREER FAILS AND BOTH PELE AND GOD AND BUDDA AND JESUS
> ALL COME TOGETHER TO SHINE ABOVE THE KIND OF DEGRADEING ATTITUDES YOU
> SHOWED TONIGHT...
> GET A GRIP DUDE YOU WERE OUT OF LINE AND YOU MADE ALOT OF ENEMIES..
> WHY DO YOU THINK NO ONE APPLAUDED YOU OR SAND WITH YOU???
> IF YOU ARE CLUELESS ENOUGH TO NOT KNOW I WILL TELL YOU WHY..
> IT WAS BECAUSE YOU SHOWED THE WORLD THE UGLINESS THAT LIES WITHIN YOUR
> HEART.....
> THE REASONS DON HO, MR KING, BRUDDAH IZ, DUKE, AND KING KAULAKAUA ALL
> GARNERED RESPECT AND LOVE AND MADE THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE IN WAS
> BECAUSE THEY NEVER ALLOWED RACE OR RELIGION TO SET THEIR PERSONAL AGENDAS
> ABOVE OTHERS......
> IF I AM THE ONLY FAN YOU LOST TONIGHT THEN I AM PROUD, IF I AM ONE OF
> HUNDREDS I AM MORE PROUD, IF I AM ONE OF MILLIONS I WILL BE MORE PROUD
> YET.
> YOU DISGRACED HAWAII, YOU DISGRACED DON, YOU DISGRACED HAWAIIANS, HAOLES,
> BLACKS AND ALL OUR WONDERFUL COLORFUL NATION OF HAWAII BY ACTING LIKE A
> JERK....
> SHAME ON YOU.....................
> THINK LONG AND HARD WILLIE....
> REVEREND JOE MILLER
> (AND YES THIS POST I PLACE MY NAME ON BECAUSE I AM A VETERAN, I AM A MAN
> OF PEACE..... YOU ARE A VIOLENT VILE EXAMPLE OF WHY WE IN HAWAII ARE NOT
> MOVING FORWARD TOWARDS A SOCIETY THAT COEXISTS IN PEACE)
>

YEAH WHAT WAS HE THINKING THAT NAPPY HEADED HO?! ALWAYS TRYING TO STEAL THE
SHOW. BOY SOME PEOPLE JUST DON'T KNOW WHEN TO QUIT!!!! HE'S A COCONUT
MONKEY, BEER DRINKING OLD TIMER FROM AN ERA LONG FORGOTTEN HE SHOULD
APOLOGIZE THE MOKE, AND ALSO DO IT PUBLICLY DURING HIS APPEARANCE AT THE
CRATER FEST, WHY IS Mr. FLEETWOOD EVEN WORKING WITH SUCH A JERK. HE IS THE
HAWAIIAN NEO NAZI SPREADING DISEASE THROUGHOUT THIS GREAT STATE!

Haole · Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Posts: 3

Aloha kakou,

let us try to get some peace here. I have no intention to offend anybody
here.
A few statements:
I am Haole. Always enjoyed the few times I was blessed to share with the
kanaka maoli and most everybody else in Hawai'i nei and I am galdly
looking forward to some happy returns.
An yes, I am sad to read and hear about the colonisation of Hawai'i nei.
The fact that the colonists are not willing to give the kanaka maoli
their independance back and to force them that their only native school
has to be opened to everybody is a shameful thing for every country
considering itself to be a democracy.
And yes again: It is shameful that affairs concerning the kanaka maoli
are handled by an authority named "Bureau of Indian Affairs".
Since when do the kanaka maoli belong to the "indigenous american
peoples"???
I still think the kanaka maoli are still Polynesians or did I get
something wrong?

Anyway: Maybe somebody named Willie got this in mind while overdosed
with drinks at the very wrong time and at the very wrong moment.

Should this be any influence on us? Nevah evah! Let us strive for peace
among us whoever and wherever we are or meet, whether we are haole,
kanaka, black, asians, indians or wherever our roots are.....

My haole origin is German. One of our kupuna named Johann Wolfgang
Goethe once said: " Education can only be education of the heart."

Let's go study.....

Malama pono!
Haole

Kuhinomoku schrieb:
> "JUNGLE" wrote in message
> @ilhawaii.net...
>> aloha----
>> you know one of the most talented artists in the state is willie k. for
>> years, heck decades i have had the utmost respect for him and his music.
>> tonight he took the stage at don ho's memorial and i am sure i was not the
>> only one he offended in the most heinous antisocial manner. in one fell
>> swoop he derided the entire civil liberty struggles of every ethnic
>> portion of our community and country.
>> his apparently drunken tirade was reminiscent of seinfeld Kramers filth.
>> On a day of rememberence he felt obligated to walk onto stage and vomit
>> out the most vile statement i have ever heard uttered on a stage in hawaii
>> or anywhere else... "LOOK OUT THERE ON THE BEACH WE GOT HAOLES AND LOCALS
>> ALL SITTING NEXT TO EACH OTHER, AINT THIS JUST A MARTIN LUTHER KING
>> MOMENT...."
>> WHAT IN HELL WAS HE THINKING?
>> DID HE THINK THAT DON WOULD HAVE APPROVED OF THAT KIND OF BLATENT
>> PREDJUDICE? DOES HE THINK THAT DON DISTINGUISED BETWEEN THE PEOPLE OF
>> THEWORLD WHO LOVED HIM AND RESPECTED HIS WORK? DID WILLIE THINK THAT ALL
>> HIS WHITE, BLACK, PHILIPINO, CHINESE, JAPANESE FANS WANTED TO HEAR HIM
>> INSULT EACH OF THEIR RACES ON A SOLEMN OCCASION SUCH AS A FUNERAL SERVICE?
>> HE CONTINUED ON WITH CHEAP PORTRAYALS OF JAZZ GREAT ELLA FITZGERALD
>> CALLING HER BRONZED AND HAWAIIAN, SHE IS BLACK AND PROUD WHY COULDNT HE
>> SHOW RESPECT. I WATCH WILLIE AT BIKE RUNS WITH HIS WHITE AND LOCAL AND
>> HAWAIIAN FRIENDS I HAVE NEVER HEARD HIM INSULT THEM IN THAT MANNER.
>> HEY WILLIE THE LAST TIME I SAW YOU YOU WALKED ONSTAGE WITH YOUR ZIPPER
>> DOWN, I GOT THE PHOTO OF A LIFETIME BECAUSE IT SHOWS YOU AS YOU ARE. YOU
>> CANT ZIP YOUR PANTS AND TONIGHT YOU SHOWED YOU CANT ZIP YOUR MOUTH. YOU
>> WERE INSULTING TO A MAN WHO SERVED HIS COUNTRY AND HIS HAWAIIAN PEOPLE
>> PROUDLY. WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO HELP FIX THE WORLD WILLIE? WHAT BRIDGES
>> HAVE YOU CROSSED? DON HO FOUGHT ALONGSIDE EVERY NATIONALITY TO PROTECT
>> YOUR RIGHT TO BE INSULTING AND CRUDE. YOU ARE NOT AN ACTIVIST YOU ARE A
>> RUDE HYPOCRITE NOT TO MENTION YOU AINT PURE HAWAIIAN FROM MY UNDERSTANDING
>> SO YOU ALSO INSULTED YOUR FAMILY. WOW TO THINK I SPENT MONEY TO SEE AND
>> HEAR YOU PERFORM...
>> THAT WONT HAPPEN EVER AGAIN AND I HOPE THAT EVERYONE WHO WAS WITNESS TO
>> YOUR ACT OF IGNORANCE AND WORDS OF HATE FEELS THE SAME WAY AS I DO.
>> TALENTED YES, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY YOU SHOWED THAT YOU ARE CLASSLESS AND
>> UNIMPORTANT.
>> YOU NEED TO FIND SOME HUMBLE WILLIE AND GET ON YOUR KNEES AND APOLOGIZE TO
>> MRS KINGS FAMILY, TO MR HOS FAMILY, TO THE ENTIRE STATE OF HAWAII. HAWAII
>> HAS ITS ISSUES AND I AM A FERVENT BELIEVER IN SOVEREIGNTY BUT NOTHING GOOD
>> EVER CAME OUT OF YOUR CALLOUS AND CRUDE BEHAVIOURS AND STATENMENTS.
>> ANOTHER LOCAL MUSICIAN ONCE TOLD ME HE DIDNT LIKE YOU AND WHEN I ASKED WHY
>> HE CALLED YOU A HIGH MUCKA FU__KA ... IT TOOK A FEW YEARS FOR ME TO
>> UNDERSTAND THE WISDOM IN HIS WORDS..... TONIGHT I SAW THE LIGHT....
>> I HOPE YOU FIND IN YOUR FUTURE THAT REGARDLESS OF YOUR TALENT THAT WITHOUT
>> APOLOGIES TO THE ENTIRE STATE AND NATION OF HAWAII THAT YOUR IGNORANT
>> PORTRAYAL OF A MAN SUCH AS MARTIN LUTHER KING WAS A GRAVE ERROR IN
>> JUDGEMENT THAT YOUR CAREER FAILS AND BOTH PELE AND GOD AND BUDDA AND JESUS
>> ALL COME TOGETHER TO SHINE ABOVE THE KIND OF DEGRADEING ATTITUDES YOU
>> SHOWED TONIGHT...
>> GET A GRIP DUDE YOU WERE OUT OF LINE AND YOU MADE ALOT OF ENEMIES..
>> WHY DO YOU THINK NO ONE APPLAUDED YOU OR SAND WITH YOU???
>> IF YOU ARE CLUELESS ENOUGH TO NOT KNOW I WILL TELL YOU WHY..
>> IT WAS BECAUSE YOU SHOWED THE WORLD THE UGLINESS THAT LIES WITHIN YOUR
>> HEART.....
>> THE REASONS DON HO, MR KING, BRUDDAH IZ, DUKE, AND KING KAULAKAUA ALL
>> GARNERED RESPECT AND LOVE AND MADE THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE IN WAS
>> BECAUSE THEY NEVER ALLOWED RACE OR RELIGION TO SET THEIR PERSONAL AGENDAS
>> ABOVE OTHERS......
>> IF I AM THE ONLY FAN YOU LOST TONIGHT THEN I AM PROUD, IF I AM ONE OF
>> HUNDREDS I AM MORE PROUD, IF I AM ONE OF MILLIONS I WILL BE MORE PROUD
>> YET.
>> YOU DISGRACED HAWAII, YOU DISGRACED DON, YOU DISGRACED HAWAIIANS, HAOLES,
>> BLACKS AND ALL OUR WONDERFUL COLORFUL NATION OF HAWAII BY ACTING LIKE A
>> JERK....
>> SHAME ON YOU.....................
>> THINK LONG AND HARD WILLIE....
>> REVEREND JOE MILLER
>> (AND YES THIS POST I PLACE MY NAME ON BECAUSE I AM A VETERAN, I AM A MAN
>> OF PEACE..... YOU ARE A VIOLENT VILE EXAMPLE OF WHY WE IN HAWAII ARE NOT
>> MOVING FORWARD TOWARDS A SOCIETY THAT COEXISTS IN PEACE)
>>
>
>
> YEAH WHAT WAS HE THINKING THAT NAPPY HEADED HO?! ALWAYS TRYING TO STEAL THE
> SHOW. BOY SOME PEOPLE JUST DON'T KNOW WHEN TO QUIT!!!! HE'S A COCONUT
> MONKEY, BEER DRINKING OLD TIMER FROM AN ERA LONG FORGOTTEN HE SHOULD
> APOLOGIZE THE MOKE, AND ALSO DO IT PUBLICLY DURING HIS APPEARANCE AT THE
> CRATER FEST, WHY IS Mr. FLEETWOOD EVEN WORKING WITH SUCH A JERK. HE IS THE
> HAWAIIAN NEO NAZI SPREADING DISEASE THROUGHOUT THIS GREAT STATE!
>
>

Mitch · Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Posts: 1

Dude, assuming your transcript is what he actually said, that's not a
hate-filled statement. There is no prejduce there.
Did he say it angrily? Was he making fun of someone?

It is perfectly reasonable and without hate or prejudice to refer to
locals and haoles and Philipinos and Chinese and whatever. It really
is.
In fact, it's nonsense to pretend there are not different cultures and
heritages.

You reacted as though he said something about those cultures that
inpugned them. If he had said "lazy locals and corrupt haoles" you
could complain, but just noticing that there were locals and haoles is
not prejudicial or hate-filled. Unless you want to talk about the word
"haole" itself.

I think you really overreacted here.

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