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PTravel



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:12 pm    Post subject: Some thoughts on seeing Spring Awakening Reply with quote

My wife and I saw Spring Awakening last night. Other than
vaguely-remembered positive mentions in this ng, I knew nothing about it.
In fact, it wasn't until I saw that the author was "Frank" Wedekind that I
had even a clue as to what we would see.

So, short form reactions: I enjoyed the show -- very nice to see something a
bit different and I liked the concept of contrasting the 19th century
characters' experiences with contemporary music. I was surprised at how
young most of the cast was. I assume the show was moved wholesale from an
OB or OOB workshop production and most of the original cast was retained. I
was also a bit surprised at the "audience members seated on stage" device
until I noted that Tom Hulce was listed as a producer -- I immediately
flashed back to Equus when I, on a student rush ticket, occupied a similar
on-stage seat. Perhaps it also explains the Equus-like sexual encounter.
On the whole, I thought the lyrics were smart and polished and the music
engaging, if not stylistically diverse.

However . . .

Technically, I don't think this was musical theater. To my mind, what
distinguishes musical theater from a play with music is the way music is
used. If it is integrated with the action and used to advance the story,
then it is musical theater. If it doesn't, it's not. In Spring Awakening,
the music was used to comment on the action or, more accurately, on the
characters' inner-life, but did not advance it. Because the music was used
in this way, after awhile, the song breaks began to feel like unwanted
interruptions, particularly given the similar style of many of the numbers.
A notable exception was "We're F____'d," and, perhaps not surprisingly, it
drew the greatest audience response.

Don't get me wrong -- we both enjoyed the show and felt it was money
well-spent (something my wife has not thought for some time, given the
rather mediocre shows we've been attending). I was absolutely thrilled to
see that a show like this produced, as opposed to Disney dreck,
pre-pubescent-girl-odrama like Legally Blonde, or yet-another-80s-band
retrospective. I think, though, if Spring Awakening had spent a little
more time in workshop it could have been a truly spectacular piece.

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Robert Bouton



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Some thoughts on seeing Spring Awakening Reply with quote

These are great comments, PT, and thank you for taking a chance on a
new musical and commenting on it here. I smiled at your last sentence
because Spring Awakening actually spent years and years in workshops.

Yes, it's unlike traditional musical theatre for the reasons you
mention, but what are we to call it then?


On Jan 28, 10:12 am, "PTravel" if Spring
Awakening had spent a little
> more time in workshop it could have been a truly spectacular piece.
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David Levy



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 3:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Some thoughts on seeing Spring Awakening Reply with quote

On Jan 28, 11:03 am, Robert Bouton wrote:

> Yes, it's unlike traditional musical theatre for the reasons you
> mention, but what are we to call it then?

A concert with interstitial scenes?. In form, it reminded me a lot of
the television version of Pete Townshend's Psychoderelict.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 7:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Some thoughts on seeing Spring Awakening Reply with quote

"Robert Bouton" wrote in message @m34g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> These are great comments, PT, and thank you for taking a chance on a
> new musical and commenting on it here. I smiled at your last sentence
> because Spring Awakening actually spent years and years in workshops.

And, no doubt, those years helped craft it into the effective piece that it
is today. I still think, though, that a bit more work was needed. For
example, I truly enjoyed the almost mechanical precision with which
microphones were produced for the transitions to the musical numbers and,
for the first part of the first act, this device was consistently employed.
As the show went on, however, it was used with less consistency (or,
perhaps, just less imagination). I was "trained" by the first 5 scenes or
so to expect a clear and clever demarcation between the dramatized 19th
century and the musical present, so I was a bit disappointed in the less
clean transitions.

Some stylistic devices were simply confusing -- if the ensemble cast
functions as a Greek chorus during the musical numbers, what, exactly, were
they doing during the hayloft scene (other than steadying the elevated
portion of the stage which, I assume, would otherwise have swung
uncontrollably)?

Also, though I enjoyed the performances, the occasional dead spot occured
often enough to get me thinking, "how would I have fixed that?" (I'm a
compulsive in-my-head musical director Wink ).

These are relatively minor quibbles, though I think with just a bit more
sharpening, Spring Awakening would have been a truly stunning, milestone
piece, rather than just a very good and inventive piece of theater (not that
there's anything wrong with that -- believe me, it's a relief to see a very
good and inventive piece of theater).

> Yes, it's unlike traditional musical theatre for the reasons you
> mention, but what are we to call it then?

A play with music? How was Amadeus billed? I don't recall.

On Jan 28, 10:12 am, "PTravel" if Spring
Awakening had spent a little
> more time in workshop it could have been a truly spectacular piece.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:58 am    Post subject: Re: Some thoughts on seeing Spring Awakening Reply with quote

From: dlevy@post.harvard.edu (David Levy) A concert with interstitial
scenes?
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A play with anachronistic musical interruptions?































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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Some thoughts on seeing Spring Awakening Reply with quote

"Robert Bouton" wrote in message @m34g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
These are great comments, PT, and thank you for taking a chance on a
new musical and commenting on it here. I smiled at your last sentence
because Spring Awakening actually spent years and years in workshops.

Yes, it's unlike traditional musical theatre for the reasons you
mention, but what are we to call it then?

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Actually, I could make the argument that it is a bit of a throwback, not in
language, but the "inner story" moments. That is the purpose of arias in
opera. Rarely do they advance the plot at all, but rather freeze the
moment. PT, I'm glad you went, too. The kids love this show.
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Princess fmomoon
War does not determine who is right,
war determines who is left---Bertrand Russell
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:08 am    Post subject: Re: Some thoughts on seeing Spring Awakening Reply with quote

fmomoon@comcast.net (fmomoon)
arias in opera. Rarely do they advance the plot at all, but rather
freeze the moment. The kids love this show.
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The same ones who demand THEIR experience on stage? BFS.































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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:57 am    Post subject: Re: Some thoughts on seeing Spring Awakening Reply with quote

"Steve Newport" wrote in message @storefull-3151.bay.webtv.net...
>
> fmomoon@comcast.net (fmomoon)
> arias in opera. Rarely do they advance the plot at all, but rather
> freeze the moment. The kids love this show.
> ---------------------------------------
> The same ones who demand THEIR experience on stage? BFS.

Yeah. But, you see, I don't tell them that the style of music is closer to
opera than anything else. Don't tell them. They think they're so much
cooler than I am.
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Moni (fmomoon)
War does not determine who is right,
war determines who is left.--Bertrand Russell
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:45 am    Post subject: Re: Some thoughts on seeing Spring Awakening Reply with quote

From: fmomoon@comcast.net (fmomoon) ...arias in opera. Rarely do they
advance the plot at all, but rather freeze the moment. The kids love
this show. I don't tell them that the style of music is closer to opera
than anything else. They think they're so much cooler than I am.
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Life will teach them otherwise soon enough. BFS.































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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:21 am    Post subject: Re: Some thoughts on seeing Spring Awakening Reply with quote

"fmomoon" wrote in message @comcast.com...

> PT, I'm glad you went, too. The kids love this show.

At least in the audience of which I was part, the adults did, too. I'm
delighted that young people enjoy Spring Awakening -- whatever it is, it's
good theater, entertaining, intelligent and well-executed. I've been
worried that the next generation will think "musical theater" is the Little
Mermaid and Legally Blonde. It's reassuring to know that there's still room
for art.



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> Princess fmomoon
> War does not determine who is right,
> war determines who is left---Bertrand Russell
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Some thoughts on seeing Spring Awakening Reply with quote

On Jan 29, 6:21 am, "PTravel" wrote:
> At least in the audience of which I was part, the adults did, too.  I'm
> delighted that young people enjoy Spring Awakening -- whatever it is, it's
> good theater, entertaining, intelligent and well-executed.  I've been
> worried that the next generation will think "musical theater" is the Little
> Mermaid and Legally Blonde.  It's reassuring to know that there's still room
> for art.

When I saw the show, I felt let down by the second half of the second
act... almost like the story had run out but since it wasn't long
enough, the creators just kept writing. So now I ask everyone I know
who really liked the show - can you explain to me what the final song
("Song of a Purple Summer") means?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Some thoughts on seeing Spring Awakening Reply with quote

On 29 Jan, 15:58, David Levy wrote:
> On Jan 29, 6:21 am, "PTravel" wrote:
>
> > At least in the audience of which I was part, the adults did, too.  I'm
> > delighted that young people enjoy Spring Awakening -- whatever it is, it's
> > good theater, entertaining, intelligent and well-executed.  I've been
> > worried that the next generation will think "musical theater" is the Little
> > Mermaid and Legally Blonde.  It's reassuring to know that there's still room
> > for art.
>
> When I saw the show, I felt let down by the second half of the second
> act... almost like the story had run out but since it wasn't long
> enough, the creators just kept writing.  So now I ask everyone I know
> who really liked the show - can you explain to me what the final song
> ("Song of a Purple Summer") means?

I'd be curious to hear this as well - I'm similarly baffled by it in
the script and on the cast recording (I've yet to see the show, but I
own a copy of the script. Perhaps the song makes some kind of sense in
the theatre that is not apparent on the page).

--
Stephen
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:46 am    Post subject: Re: Some thoughts on seeing Spring Awakening Reply with quote

ptravel@travelersvideo.com (PTravel)
I've been worried that the next generation will think "musical theater"
is the Little Mermaid and Legally Blonde.
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Or HIGH SCHOOL MUSICAL. Although, the LITTLE MERMAID film score/script
is better crafted than SPRING AWAKENING or WICKED. It sounds like the
show suffers from a misguided attempt to find a replacement for the over
rated Downtown Julie Taymor.































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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Some thoughts on seeing Spring Awakening Reply with quote

"PTravel" wrote in message @mid.individual.net...
>
> "fmomoon" wrote in message
> @comcast.com...
>
>> PT, I'm glad you went, too. The kids love this show.
>
> At least in the audience of which I was part, the adults did, too. I'm
> delighted that young people enjoy Spring Awakening -- whatever it is, it's
> good theater, entertaining, intelligent and well-executed. I've been
> worried that the next generation will think "musical theater" is the
> Little Mermaid and Legally Blonde. It's reassuring to know that there's
> still room for art.

Excellent point. Well, the music of "the masses" has never been the
quality music. I think history pretty much supports that idea.
--
Moni

In opera, there is always too much singing.
- Claude Debussy
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Some thoughts on seeing Spring Awakening Reply with quote

wrote in message @u10g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
On 29 Jan, 15:58, David Levy wrote:
> On Jan 29, 6:21 am, "PTravel" wrote:
>
> > At least in the audience of which I was part, the adults did, too. I'm
> > delighted that young people enjoy Spring Awakening -- whatever it is,
> > it's
> > good theater, entertaining, intelligent and well-executed. I've been
> > worried that the next generation will think "musical theater" is the
> > Little
> > Mermaid and Legally Blonde. It's reassuring to know that there's still
> > room
> > for art.
>
> When I saw the show, I felt let down by the second half of the second
> act... almost like the story had run out but since it wasn't long
> enough, the creators just kept writing. So now I ask everyone I know
> who really liked the show - can you explain to me what the final song
> ("Song of a Purple Summer") means?

I'd be curious to hear this as well - I'm similarly baffled by it in
the script and on the cast recording (I've yet to see the show, but I
own a copy of the script. Perhaps the song makes some kind of sense in
the theatre that is not apparent on the page).

--
Stephen

It refers to the growth of a teenager (spring) to an adult (summer). A
purple summer is also a kind of flower which survives in harsh surroundings.
Pretty lyrics.
--
Moni

In opera, there is always too much singing.
- Claude Debussy

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