Vocal Elimination Software

Yoel · Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Posts: 1

Can anyone recommend some free or cheap software that removes vocals from
recordings?

Much thanks,

Yoel

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cb12 · Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Posts: 10

Can someone tell me the same Question as Yoel asked. cb12@enter.net
"Yoel" wrote in message@news.012.net.il...
> Can anyone recommend some free or cheap software that removes vocals from
> recordings?
>
> Much thanks,
>
> Yoel
>
>

Colleen · Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Posts: 5

"Yoel" wrote in message news:...
> Can anyone recommend some free or cheap software that removes vocals from
> recordings?
>
> Much thanks,
>
> Yoel

Same question as Yoel: I'd like to know if/how I could extract the
voice and keep the 'instrumental only' part of a few recorded songs
on some of my favorite CDs so I can practice some new songs.

I use Mac OS 9.2 . I read that Quicktime can do it but I have QT 5
(the free version) but haven't found out how to do a karaoke-type
operation with it.

Would appreciate any helpfull hints.

Colleen

Colleen · Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Posts: 5

jdd wrote in message news:...
> Colleen wrote:
> > "Yoel" wrote in message news:...
> >
> >>Can anyone recommend some free or cheap software that removes vocals from
> >>recordings?
>
> it's not really possible to remove voices.

I'm surprised at this comment. I thought that was what karaoke was all
about. I have a karaoke function on my compact sound system, but
there are 3 drawbacks:

1. depending on the recording, it only eliminates 40% to 80% of the
voice.

2. what is left of the instrumentals is of (sometimes much) reduced
quality

3. while playing a song from the CD drive in karaoke mode, the system
doesn't allow me to simultneously record on the tape deck to make the
backup music I'm trying to make... Sad

(

Can anyone tell me if karaoke specific machines do a better job?

Since I can get the lyrics off the net, and only want the music,
should I still be tinking of getting a karaoke system?...

I thought maybe there existed some software for my Mac that might do a
better job of eliminating (as much as possible) the vocals?!

Any thouhts would be appreciated

Colleen

Goombah · Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Posts: 2

I actually used a voice eliminating devise back in the 80's, it was not
digital but it did operate on matching the left and right signal and
clipping anything that was common. Most often the vocals are centered in
the listening sphere and are exactly in the middle, that is to say exactly
equal in both channels. Instruments are usually shifted at least a little
left or right.

Beatle songs fail miserably. Everything is either on the left channel or
right including vocals. Total separation, sounds great, but your stuck if
you want to clip anything.

good luck, I haven't seen one of these devices in 15 to 20 years, which
probably means that it didn't work very well for most people.

looks good on paper though. Smile

goombah

"jdd" wrote in message$2n7j$1@biggoron.nerim.net...
> Colleen wrote:
> > "Yoel" wrote in message
news:...
> >
> >>Can anyone recommend some free or cheap software that removes vocals
from
> >>recordings?
>
> it's not really possible to remove voices.
>
> one can cut away medium frequencies (most vocals are on this part of the
> spectrum). I own also an audio cable, probably a bad one, that cut very
> hard these mediums and make the voices fade away (sinatra ones Smile

. I
> keep this cable thoroughsly Smile

>
> it's also said that it's possible to make binaries operations on stereo
> tracks to suppress the common part (hopefully the voice), but I never
> tried it.
>
> I try this because backing tracks are very difficult to find (even
> paying)...
>
> jdd
>

Doug · Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Posts: 5

A good Karaoke unit will do vocal elimination but there are limits as has
been stated. The other option is to use something like www.tricerasoft.com
CDG Ripper but it also is limited on what it can eliminate. Cost on the
ripping software is $25 or so.

"Colleen" wrote in message@posting.google.com...
> jdd wrote in message
news:...
> > Colleen wrote:
> > > "Yoel" wrote in message
news:...
> > >
> > >>Can anyone recommend some free or cheap software that removes vocals
from
> > >>recordings?
> >
> > it's not really possible to remove voices.
>
> I'm surprised at this comment. I thought that was what karaoke was all
> about. I have a karaoke function on my compact sound system, but
> there are 3 drawbacks:
>
> 1. depending on the recording, it only eliminates 40% to 80% of the
> voice.
>
> 2. what is left of the instrumentals is of (sometimes much) reduced
> quality
>
> 3. while playing a song from the CD drive in karaoke mode, the system
> doesn't allow me to simultneously record on the tape deck to make the
> backup music I'm trying to make... Sad

(
>
> Can anyone tell me if karaoke specific machines do a better job?
>
> Since I can get the lyrics off the net, and only want the music,
> should I still be tinking of getting a karaoke system?...
>
> I thought maybe there existed some software for my Mac that might do a
> better job of eliminating (as much as possible) the vocals?!
>
> Any thouhts would be appreciated
>
> Colleen

jdd · Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Posts: 5

Colleen wrote:
> "Yoel" wrote in message news:...
>
>>Can anyone recommend some free or cheap software that removes vocals from
>>recordings?

it's not really possible to remove voices.

one can cut away medium frequencies (most vocals are on this part of the
spectrum). I own also an audio cable, probably a bad one, that cut very
hard these mediums and make the voices fade away (sinatra ones Smile

. I
keep this cable thoroughsly Smile

it's also said that it's possible to make binaries operations on stereo
tracks to suppress the common part (hopefully the voice), but I never
tried it.

I try this because backing tracks are very difficult to find (even
paying)...

jdd

PowerKaraoke · Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Posts: 2

On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 14:57:57 +0300, "Yoel" wrote:

>Can anyone recommend some free or cheap software that removes vocals from
>recordings?

A lot of information on vocal removing can be found here:

http://www.ethanwiner.com/novocals.html

--
Krzysztof Loose
PowerKaraoke
info@powerkaraoke.com
http://www.powerkaraoke.com

Colleen · Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Posts: 5

Thanks for your replies.

I finally found a very good shareware program that
basically does what I want and much more . As mentioned in other
posts, it seems no software does perfect voice elimination, but this
one does a good job and the price is right...

I don't usually do commercials but this one I've tried and can vouch
for:

Melody Assistant v. 6.2.0
Macintosh OS 8 – X (also exists for Windows)

http://www.harmony-central.com/Software/Mac/melody-assistant.html

Melody Assistant is a complete score editor and music composition
software. It includes a built-in softsynth, and offers a friendly
interface and powerful features: An easy-to-use editor enables you to
place and move notes on the staves. It processes all the break and
effect symbols and uses them while playing the music. You can record
your own sounds and use them as instruments in your tunes, and
import/export MIDI files. Load & save in MID,
KAR, TAB, ABC, AIFF, MP3, WAV...

Melody Assistant also calculates tablatures for any fretted instrument
or harmonica and displays the chord diagrams. A wide guitar chord
diagram user-defineable library is provided.
You can associate lyrics to a tune, and let the music play in Karaoke
(multi-voices) mode.
Graphic and texts can be inserted at any point on the score. A jukebox
is integrated (playlist).

New : Virtual Singer shareware plug-in, which makes your computer sing
the lyrics !

Melody Assistant is shareware (fee : US $15). In unregistered version
:
limits on document length, exports limited, no key/clef changes.

colleendove79@hotmail.com (Colleen) wrote in message news:...
> "Yoel" wrote in message news:...
> > Can anyone recommend some free or cheap software that removes vocals from
> > recordings?
> >
> > Much thanks,
> >
> > Yoel
>
> Same question as Yoel: I'd like to know if/how I could extract the
> voice and keep the 'instrumental only' part of a few recorded songs
> on some of my favorite CDs so I can practice some new songs.
>
> I use Mac OS 9.2 . I read that Quicktime can do it but I have QT 5
> (the free version) but haven't found out how to do a karaoke-type
> operation with it.
>
> Would appreciate any helpfull hints.
>
> Colleen

Francesco Morana · Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Posts: 6

Try
"PANDORA PROSONIQ" for MAC
Bye
Francesco
"Colleen" ha scritto nel messaggio@posting.google.com...
> jdd wrote in message
news:...
> > Colleen wrote:
> > > "Yoel" wrote in message
news:...
> > >
> > >>Can anyone recommend some free or cheap software that removes vocals
from
> > >>recordings?
> >
> > it's not really possible to remove voices.
>
> I'm surprised at this comment. I thought that was what karaoke was all
> about. I have a karaoke function on my compact sound system, but
> there are 3 drawbacks:
>
> 1. depending on the recording, it only eliminates 40% to 80% of the
> voice.
>
> 2. what is left of the instrumentals is of (sometimes much) reduced
> quality
>
> 3. while playing a song from the CD drive in karaoke mode, the system
> doesn't allow me to simultneously record on the tape deck to make the
> backup music I'm trying to make... Sad

(
>
> Can anyone tell me if karaoke specific machines do a better job?
>
> Since I can get the lyrics off the net, and only want the music,
> should I still be tinking of getting a karaoke system?...
>
> I thought maybe there existed some software for my Mac that might do a
> better job of eliminating (as much as possible) the vocals?!
>
> Any thouhts would be appreciated
>
> Colleen

Monika · Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Posts: 4

I have used Dart Karoake a long time ago and just the trial version and made
my own cdg out of it from a CD. There is only what seems to be an echo from
a song and when you sing with it you can't even hear it, however, the
soundquality wasn't the best. Might've been cause I didn't do it right or
it was a release a long time ago.. I'm sure technology has improved since
then (that was approximately 2 years ago). I only tried once cause I didn't
feel I wanted to go through all of this to make my own cdg's. NOw I'm
thinking about getting something like this again, but not sure yet.
Monika

MC68HC16Z1 · Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Posts: 8

vocal elimination takes the left and right
and cancels them against echother to
removce what ever is common on both sides. This also takes out a lot of the
bass end and some other instruments, thats why it sounds so hollow like its in
cardboard tube. for best possible results
use a recordplayer(vinyl) into a PC and record as WAV. then try vocal
elimination
or direct from a CD track (not Mp3)
there is also MTU vocal eliminator that has a little tone control to limit the
area that is reuced to the vocal range. all the versions really seem the same
to me.It's the original song, not the software that makes the difference

Matt · Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Posts: 1

> vocal elimination takes the left and right
> and cancels them against echother to
> removce what ever is common on both sides.

This is indeed what all available software does!

If you want to know about NEW and better way see
http://www.csp-audio.com/vocalremoval.htm

Matt